B5C. Mother and daughter in early times .24.44.45.50.

There's an old woman and a young woman at the beginning of time A young woman miraculously conceives and gives birth to a son or twins who build the land.

Minahasa, Chippewa, Menominee, Mohawki, Onondaga, Seneca, Yavapai.

Malaysia-Indonesia. Minahasa: Bezemer 1904 [When the earth was still soft, two women came out of it: an elderly shaman Karmah and a young Lumimuut; K. told L. to stand up against the wind to become pregnant; she turned to the south, east, north wind, but became pregnant only from the west, gave birth to a son Toar; when he grew up, K. told L. and T. to stand with their backs to each other and walk T. to the right and L. to the left; gave K. shorter, and L. was longer; K. said that if the woman he met had a stick the same length as him, it would be his mother L., and if not, she could be married; she said the same when she turned to L.; T. and L. met on the other side of the earth, L.'s stick was longer; they got married, had children: twice 9, three times 7, nine times 3; they inhabited the whole earth]: 316-337; Raats 1970 [ Lumimuut was born from a stone burned by the heat of the sun; four winds gave birth to seven, then nine creatures; after the flood, she and her son escaped; both went in different directions in search of marriage partners, taking on a stick of equal length; L.'s wand grew, so when they met, the mother and son did not recognize each other and married]: 31; Isis 1998 [after a rock in the sea gave birth to a crane, sweat came out of it; the goddess Limuvat was born out of sweat; she learned about the existence of the "original land" from the crane, brought a lump of land from there, placed seeds of trees and herbs in it, marking the beginning of peace; went up the mountain, conceived from the west wind, gave birth to a boy; he was unsuccessfully looking for a wife; then L. handed him a staff the size of her height, told him to find a wife taller; when they met, mother and son did not got to know each other, and the staff grew, taller than the mother; mother and son got married and gave birth to gods]: 152.

The Midwest. Chippewa [unnoticed, the old woman's daughter conceives from the Wind or the Sun; gives birth to triplets; does not put children immediately on the ground, so people do not walk for the first year of life; one brother is Flint; the elder Venebozho kills him (first murder); second brother Nekacivejik (The One Who Goes Beyond Sunset) gets tired of wandering around with V., makes the way for the dead; puts an Otter, an Owl, two hills on it to the sides (these are fire-breathing snakes with their heads to each other), a log-snake across the river (see motif H24); strawberries eaten at the fork turn into toads or go to the left, disappear; those who go to the right come to N.]: Barnouw 1972, No. 1:13-18; Menominee [The creator raises the Earth from the depths, which has a human form, humans are Earth's grandchildren; she has a daughter; the Creator wants animals; the old woman does not tell her daughter leaving the house, turn north; she turns around, the wind penetrates her bosom, she gives birth to Menapus (the "big rabbit"), then all the birds and animals; Flint is the last to come out, kills her mother at birth; an old woman buries her; her fire goes out; she tells M. that the owners of the fire live overseas; M. swims across the sea in a dolblenka, turns into a rabbit, picked up by the two daughters of the blind fire master; they They put him by the fire to warm up, he runs away, carrying the fire, the owner chases him; Big Hairy Fish with horns transports him across the sea; he brings fire home]: Bloomfield 1928, No. 68:137-147.

Northeast. Seneca: Converse 1908 in Turner 1978 [In the sky, the Great Chief pulls a tree, sends a pregnant woman down; birds pick her up without letting her fall into the sea; Muskrat brings clay from the bottom to paw; clay is placed on the Turtle, the earth grows; the woman gives birth to twins; the evil comes out under her arm; she dies giving birth to good; the good makes the sun out of her face, the moon and the star from her chest, gives it to the Earth body; makes mountains, straight rivers; goes across the sea to his father, who asks how high he can reach; the son reaches the sky; how much he can lift, raises the mountain; the father recognizes him as a son, gives two bundles, in which birds led by an eagle, animals led by a deer; an evil brother makes rivers winding, creates storms, sea monsters, predators, reptiles; brothers fight, the good puts the evil in underworld]: 36-39; Cornplanter 1938, No. 1-2 [in heaven, the chief thinks his wife is pregnant with the Blue Puma or the Fire Dragon; pulls out the Tree of Light, throws his wife into the hole; birds they catch a falling woman; everyone dives to get the ground from the bottom; the Muskrat brings the earth in the mouth; the turtle puts her back; the woman throws the earth around, the earth grows; the woman gives birth to a daughter; a stranger hangs two arrows over the girl, one of them with a flinttip; a girl gives birth to twins; one of them kills her mother when born through her armpit; an evil one accuses the good of her mother's death; a grandmother throws away the good, she likes the evil; the good finds his father; this is the West Wind; the good wants to make the rivers flow in both directions at once; the evil, apparently, does not allow it to be done (without details), creates rapids and rifts; good creates fruits, animals, birds, fish; evil puts many small bones in fish; creates snakes, monsters, diseases; makes pine cones inedible; brothers play bones to whom own the world; the good wins by getting the dice from the Chickady and not taking the ones that the grandmother had]: 19-33; Curtin, Hewitt 1918, No. 74 [in heaven, a woman is instructed in a dream to dig a tree with flowers light; people dig it up, it falls into the abyss; the leader tells the woman to be left after her; Loon tells the Osprey to pick her up; rejects the Horned Serpent's offer to take care of the woman; the Turtle is chosen for this role; animals and birds dive to get the ground, emerge dead; Hell-diver brings some land; it is put on the Turtle, Beavers and Ducks make the earth big; a woman gives birth to a daughter; she gets pregnant from a man who turns out to be a Turtle; gives birth to twins; the youngest comes out of her armpit, killing her mother; his head is flint; the woman is buried, one of her breasts grows white, the other is red corn; the older brother makes people; the younger brother tries to imitate him, creates monsters; the elder puts them underground; after death, the good go to the older brother, the evil to the younger brother]: 409-415; onondaga : Hewitt 1903:141-201 [in heaven, the first person dies; the first woman (his sister?) gives birth to a daughter with him; a girl visits a coffin, receives instructions from her father; marries a heavenly leader; gives birth to a daughter with him although she did not sleep with him; he thinks it is a child of the Northern Lights; pulls out The Tree of Light, throws his wife and girl into the abyss; waterfowl pick them up; the muskrat brings land from the bottom of the sea; it is placed on the Turtle's back, the earth grows; the woman's daughter gives birth to twins from a stranger; one of them is Flint, comes out of the mother's body under her arm, killing her; a good brother, a Young man, makes the sun out of his mother's head, the moon out of her body; Flint hides animals in a cave; Young man releases them] 1928 [like Seneca; a good brother creates berries, corn, sunflowers, animals; evil brother Flint hides animals in a cave; kills only for himself and his grandmother; man says good to a brother where animals are hidden; he opens the cave door, makes animals wild; Flint creates thistles, flies; a good brother makes people out of clay; Flint imitates, but makes only a frog and a monkey; instead of a deer and a bear, he makes a grizzly; creates monsters; a good brother separates the world of Flint with a water barrier, sends monsters to the other side; good creates Indians, evil creates Europeans; both brothers agree that monsters will remain in the cave in the mountain; the good one revives the mother, turns her into the moon]: 470-543; mohawks: Hewitt 1903 [like onondag in Hewitt 1903; man hangs an arrowhead over the bed women; after that she gives birth to Flint and Maple Shoot; a woman's mother makes the moon out of her head, the sun out of her daughter's body; Escape lies that he will be killed by sedge or grass (cattails); Flint says that for him yellow flints and deer rolls are deadly; brothers fight; Flint is killed, turns into a mountain range]: 255-339; Rustige 1988 [a man dies in the world for the first time in the sky; a girl whose father is unknown goes to his remains; she is being watched, heard her call the deceased father; he tells her to go to the chief at the end of the world; the chief likes the way she makes porridge, he marries her, sends her home for a while; as a result Corn falls from above; the woman becomes pregnant, the leader falls ill; tells the tree to be uprooted, asks his wife to look down, pushes her, immediately recovers himself; ducks pick up the falling one, put it on turtle's back; woman asks animals to dive; Beaver, Otter emerge dead, Muskrat brings silt under her claw; while a woman sleeps, earth emerges from it; a woman gives birth to a daughter; a man comes at night leaves an arrow near the girl; she conceives twins; good brother Rostock is born normally, the evil Flint comes out of the mother's side, killing her; proves to her grandmother that it was Rostock who killed her daughter, she throws her away Sprout in willow thickets; Sprout creates birds, Flint creates bat; Flint and grandmother hide animals; Sprout finds and opens the door in the rock; monsters are still in the rock; Flint and grandmother hide the sun on the tree on the island; the Beaver, the Spider, the Rabbit, the Hawk do not want to take the Otter Talker with them; they take out the sun, the Rabbit runs away with him, the glitter has whitewashed his belly hair; the otter talker is hit with an oar, the jaw has become short; the sun is thrown into the sky; Flint and Rostock fight to create irregularities in the landscape; Flint is thrown into the lower world; Sprout creates people, Flint creates evil spirits; Grandma Rostock creates evil spirits; Grandma Rostock cuts off the head, makes the moon out of it]: 3-18.

The Great Southwest. Yavapai: Gifford 1933a (SV yavapai): 349-364 [people lived underground at the bottom of a deep dip; there was a pine tree ("dog-tail tree") surrounded by a vine; people climbed it to the ground, their leader was Hanyiko '(Frog); his shaman daughter made him sick; before he died, he ordered him to be burned and watched for the stars; when two stars appear in the east before sunrise, they are feathers that adorn his head; in 2 months, 5 stars will appear - this is his right hand; in 3 months it will be cold, his whole body will be visible; the red star will celebrate 4 months; corn will grow on his grave; when the corpse is burned, that's it they surround the fire, but the Coyote jumps over the short Badger, grabs, carries, eats the heart; before that, people said that the deceased would be reborn in four days; Coyote: let him die forever; H. died forever; they agreed with Coyote; his daughter died, people refused to change their minds; it snowed; people: the mountains were covered with cornmeal; Coyote: snow; therefore, the snow does not consist of cornmeal; when walking rain, the dry tree did not get wet; Coyote: let it get wet; because Coyote took possession of H.'s heart, water poured out of the hole from which people came to the ground; people put all kinds of seeds and a girl into the hollowed out pine tree trunk, sealed; after the flood, the girl went out, the others died; she lay down so that water dripped into her vagina, the sun was shining on her; conceived and gave birth to a girl; she grew up, mother placed her in the same place, but the Water and Sun did not want to get along with her daughter; then the mother covered her with her body and the daughter became pregnant; her son Skatakaamcha; his mother took the eagle and fed her to the chicks; he interrupted partridge leg; when she fixed it, she told about the fate of his mother; S. decided to kill the monstrous bull (bison?) ; The badger dug an underground passage under him, S. stabbed the monster with a hot knife, killed him; put on a blood-filled stomach; the eagle brought it to the nest; the eagles say that the prey is alive, the eagle does not believe; the eagle flew away, the eagle flew in, S. killed her with a hatchet; told the eagles to remain silent; killed the eagle when it returned; threw the eagles out of the nest; made the rock half as low, but no more; The Bat lowered it in the basket ; he opened his eyes, they fell, the Bat was injured, S. cured her; came to his grandmother, who was crying; he threw eagle feathers at her, said he killed both eagles; married; The Wind stole his wife; Spider warns that Wind offers to compete, kills losers; S. beat him in a ball and ring game; won a competition whose hair is longer; Wind stabbed S. 4 times without causing harm; S. killed him with a knife; threw one hand to the east, the other to the south, one leg to the west, the other to the north: let the wind blow from different directions; S. brought his wife back; grandmother: there is a bad Chewasistesikkaamcha; S. came to him into the house, slowly throws food away for fear of being poisoned; killed C. with a knife; Bear's arrow reeds; S. invites him to marry his grandmother; he gave reeds; believes that the best tips are coal ; S. killed him with flint; the tree for the ends of the arrows at the Owl; S. and offered him his grandmother as his wife; she found the heart of the Owl, it was on the sole; S. shot there, killed the Owl; an bow tree in the canyon with converging and diverging walls; S. put a deer horn between them; went east to his father the Sun; the Sun's wife warns that the Sun will try to kill S. in the steam room; but S. is not afraid of the heat; the Sun recognized his son, let him choose a horse; a man at the cliff pushes passers-by with his foot; he grew up with his back to the rock; S. lets a chanterelle first, it dodges; then a rattlesnake, the man is afraid of it; S. disconnected him with an ax from the cliff, threw it into the abyss; below 6-7 women devour the fallen; S. threw that man's stomach into the fire, he burst into the eyes of the women, S. hacked them; there was a boy, he ran to the cave, S. did not I managed to get it, left the snakes to guard, but they fell asleep; the boy left, creating new ones like him; grandmother: you can't handle them], 402-412 (Western yavapai) [people live underground; younger brother invites the elder to illuminate the world; he makes a disc, smears ocher, hangs it, but the younger one makes a disc of white lime, smears ocher; it gets light but too hot; the younger brother asks the eldest to raise the sky with a reed pole, he did it; at night, the elder brother touches the genitals of his two daughters; they hide on the shore under the willow, where he relieves himself, and swallow his bowel movements; he begins to lose strength, tells him to be cremated after death; people sent the Coyote for fire, at which time they lit a fire, standing around; the Badger was lower than the others, the Coyote jumped over him, took his heart and ate it; the burnt heart had to lay the ground, cultivated plants would grow; and so only one corn stalk would grow; the best cobs went to the Hopi and Navajo, and the worst yavapai; people decided to get to the upper world; the hummingbird found a hole in the sky; under the guidance of their younger brother, they planted a pine tree and a vine that wrapped around it; they climbed up, but the old man and his two granddaughters stayed; when they got to the ground, from water poured in the holes; the flood was caused by those two daughters of the older brother who turned into frogs; people hollowed out a pine tree, put food inside the girl and sealed it; only the girl survived, the rest drowned; she lay down with her vagina under the rays of the sun and under drops of water, conceived, gave birth to a daughter; she grew up, tried to repeat everything, but the Sun and Water recognized their daughter, conception did not occur; then the mother covered her daughter's body with her body, the Sun and Water did not notice the substitution; the daughter gave birth to a son Matinyaupakaamcha; the eagle took her to its nests and ate it, M. stayed with her grandmother; interrupted the bird's leg with a stone; she: if you'll cure him, I'll say something; when he finds out that the old woman is not his mother, but his grandmother, killed the eagle, on the advice of his grandmother, by heating the tip of his spear; the grandmother sends him to kill the bison (ox); the badger and the gopher dug an underground passage under lying bison; the mouse plucked the hair from where the heart was, explaining that its children were cold; M. pierced the bison from below; he plunged his horn into the underground passage, but M. dodged; made a cape out of the skin, and under it bison blood; allowed the eagle to grab itself; blood gushed, the bison decided that M. was killed; the chicks see that the prey was alive, but the eagle did not believe; when it flew away, M. found out where the eagle would fly; becoming a lizard, smeared with resin the place where the male and female sit; killed the eagle; told the chicks to remain silent, otherwise they would kill; The Bat lowered M. in the basket, ordering them to close their eyes; he opened, they fell, M. broke the Bat's bones, but cured her; M. looked into the grandmother's house through a hole in the roof; called her; grandmother: the wind was whistling; when he saw her grandson, she began to dance with joy; the bald eagle took M. to an island on the lake; there were already many prisoners there; M . ordered the prisoners to eat crushed flint to the eagles and hide, digging an underground passage; the eagles died; the crane stretches its leg across the lake; people cross it like a bridge; children fall into the water, turn into ducks; M. decides to make a bow; the grandmother warns of dangers every time where to look for bow materials; onion wood where the canyon walls converge and diverge; M. shoved between they have a deer horn, took out the material; reeds for arrows owned by Owl; M.: I propose marriage to my grandmother; Owl is glad, he gave reeds himself; when Owl came, M. told his grandmother to find out where his heart was; in the sole legs; M. shot there, killed Owl; the grandmother straightened her vulva with an arrow; when M. looked, the arrow broke; where the flint for the tips, sparks fly out; M. covered himself with a turtle shell, took out flint; wood for the front of the arrows owned by the Bear; M. called him to marry his grandmother; said he was making charcoal tips; The bear believed, shot M. with a coal arrow with a tip, and M. killed him with an arrow with a flintlock tip; grandmother: cut the deer in a clearing, not under a tree; M. began to cut under a tree; a naked woman came down from the tree, chased M. to get along with him; the grandmother hid it under the hearth; but the woman began to write there, M. got out; M. made penises out of blue stone, quartz, lava and clay, used it every single night, breaking off women's vaginal teeth; she became his wife; she was actually a bear; offered to drive game at him; he hung his clothes on a pole; three or four bears rushed at her, M. killed them, pulled out their fangs and claws; Spider told M. that the Wind took his wife away; let M. compete with him outside, not in his cave; who would chase the ball faster; M. won all the prisoners and the life of the Wind; who has longer hair, M. won again, killed The winds were a club; they spent the night in the Wind Cave; the wife became snakes in front of the entrance, M. jumped over them; M. went to look for his father, the Sun; spent the night with people who wanted to kill him; closed him for the night eyes with pebbles ("glass eyes"), the owners think that he is awake; the Sun's wife to her husband: your son has come; he wants to test the visitor, invites him to the steam room; M. all gives up a couple and says it's cold, The sun believes he is his son; M. tamed the horse, went home; the Sun and the Cloud began to argue over him; each painted one half of his body; M. returned east to the Sun, and the grandmother went west to the Sun, and the grandmother went west to ocean].